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Altina McAlterson
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Posted - 2014.03.30 07:27:00 -
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This is a horrible idea. You spent the SP. It's gone and you don't get it back. That's the way it works. The argument that there should be a respec when all weapons are finally in the game is also total crap. I see so many people assuming that it will happen but there's no reason at all for it to happen.
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Altina McAlterson
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Posted - 2014.03.30 09:32:00 -
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Garrett Blacknova wrote:
And why should we get a weapon SP refund?
Because half the weapon selections were complete and half weren't. There was only one racial Rifle variant the last time we got a respec that applied to weapons, there were no Gallente or Caldari ranged Sidearms (Caldari get NKs), and now there are several more of each.
Stop being stupid. You know damn well that is a completely different situation from what was going on with dropsuits. Which was a totally unique situation and a one-time deal.
Quote:Why shouldn't we have got a refund on the existing Rifles when they gave those full racial parity?
Why shouldn't they have refunded SP? Because there was no reason to. Everyone keeps throwing around "racial parity' like it's the most important goddamn thing in the history of mankind. It isn't.
I agree that it is something that will be good when it happens. Doesn't mean anyone should expect to get their SP back. When you spend SP on a skill it needs to gone for good and you need to make your decisions with that in mind. Otherwise your choices don't matter any more and we can all just **** around like it's closed BETA.
So why shouldn't we get the SP back because all of a sudden we got Racial Parity up in this *****? Because it is bad for the game.
Quote:Why didn't they give us a refund for sidearm SP after adding the Magsec and Ion/Bolt PIstols?
Because that would have been stupid.
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Altina McAlterson
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Posted - 2014.03.30 23:22:00 -
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Ripley Riley wrote:Gaurdian Satyr wrote:1.Stop whine
2.man up and earn your sp
3.spec in to whatever the hell you want
- We aren't whining. This isn't whining, this is a well-reasoned request from paying customers.
- eing a man has nothing to do with playing Dust. We've already earned the SP, but due to many weapons being missing from the weapon list in 1.0 - 1.6 we weren't able to make educated decisions on what weapons we wanted. We are just asking to be able to put that SP where we would have put it if our weapons WERE ACTUALLY IN THE GAME.
- Will be happy to, just as soon as CCP provides us with a weaponry respec.
1. As a "paying customer" you have the right to receive the agreed upon goods and services at the agreed upon price exactly as it that good or service was represented to you at the time of sale. Everything else is courtesy. Buying AUR doesn't make your position any more or any less valid.
"Well reasoned" is bit of a stretch because the only reason I've heard isn't actually very good but that's only my opinion.
2. They will always be adding new content. You want another respec when the new vehicles come out? When pilot suits come out? Do you want a respec every time something new comes out or is there some certain criteria? EVE is over a decade old and they are still adding new ships so when does it end?
3.EVE players have never had any SP refunded unless those skills were completely removed from the game and we are happy. Granted in EVE all when something new was added it would always be for all 4 races at the same time, but still it was something new. Perhaps the issue lies with your expectations and not the game?
NOTE:I am aware there was an emergency reset of SP shortly after EVE Online was released but that doesn't really count.
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Altina McAlterson
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Posted - 2014.03.31 02:54:00 -
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Ripley Riley wrote:
No no, paying customers have more of an effect on CCP's decisions that others. If you genuinely believe that they are as concerned with F2P'ers as they are with people who give them money then you are naive. I agreed to give CCP my money, you are right, and that entitled to me to the good/service that was available at the time. I paid for the content in 1.0 and that was the content I received. If CCP wants me to pay for 2.0 forward then they are going to strongly consider a weaponry respec.
You're not that important. Businesses depend on customers to operate. You are a customer and they really don't care about you or what you want. The only consideration is what is best for the game and the players as a whole.
Quote:This isn't a case of NEW content. It's a case of MISSING content. We lacked rifle diversity at launch, as well as sidearm diversity. What was I supposed to do? Just bank all of my SP until my rifle of choice was released? How would I know when that was? They never told me even an approximate time for the rail rifle to be launched so how was I supposed to know? Should all of us just made characters and let them sit, accumulating SP until whatever it was we wanted went live? That sounds thrilling 
I expect you to grind out the SP for it just like you did for whatever weapon you've been using. I understand that wasn't the one you actually wanted but I don't care. You think that because it isn't fair that you should get the SP back. I know that it isn't fair. I just don't give a ****.
Everyone has SP sunk into something they don't want anymore or something that got nerfed into oblivion. You're not special. What people should be debating is whether refunding SP is good or bad for the game and whether or not it is reasonable to expect players to grind out the SP for the new weapons.
I say refunding SP is bad for the game and it is reasonable to expect players to grind the SP for the new weapon.
OR
When they have all the racial weapons in the game you can swap your SP from your current weapon to whatever the comparable racial weapon . Each skill would be a direct transfer so if you trained Proficiency III that SP is automatically allocated to the new weapon's proficiency skill. In the case of something like sharpshooter if the new weapon doesn't have it then the SP will be returned to your unallocated pool. Sadly I don't think that this is feasible due to technical reasons but I just wanted to throw it out there.
When I say that refunding SP is bad for the game I don't mean moving it from one rifle to another rifle. I'm talking about actually refunding it so that it can be used for something completely different. That's why I say no refund and grind it out because I don't think option 2 is possible.
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